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Post by hueyfreeman on Feb 8, 2011 2:40:33 GMT
very good info Yushi. Anything else?
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 8, 2011 2:52:48 GMT
He also mentioned the fact that us being Madara's ancestor was going to be important at some point. He also mentioned that Madara had a good reason for bringing back Rikudo despite his knowledge of how powerful he was.
Also, he brought up that Madara had said that 21 would come to him willingly. After another person mentioned that they couldn't think of a single reason, Mav said that he could think of at least 10. I then mentioned that that didn't necessarily mean that our current will would be intact, to which he said was very true.
He also mentioned that it is going to be hard to get Nagato to side with us.
He also mentioned that Akatsuki had several members that we haven't met yet that are from the canon. Along with this, he said that Madara was giving each member exactly what they wanted, be it carnage, money, power, world peace, or what-have-you.
I think that was all, but I may have forgotten something.
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Post by badjay on Feb 8, 2011 2:59:56 GMT
Yeah I like E. I don't remember anything about hidan >_>.
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Post by flame on Feb 8, 2011 3:03:41 GMT
That's about everything, but you forgot one thing. When he told us to think about the backpack, crates, 21 clones, the previous realm, and the scroll. After some guessing, he confirmed to me that madara was making artificail tailed beasts. As an unlimited power source. I think that was the endgame weapon Mav was talking about, but I'm not sure..
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 8, 2011 3:06:02 GMT
I thought that that was just another component, either to act as batteries for all the backpacks/crates or to create an army of Rikudo/21 clones.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 8, 2011 3:05:54 GMT
Hidan is leaving Akatsuki, and 21 will join him willingly.
Jashin confirmed as true threat
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 8, 2011 3:07:33 GMT
No, you guys are all correct.
But it's only one of the end game weapons... He's got at least 3 weapons that can total your team.
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Post by flame on Feb 8, 2011 3:32:24 GMT
I've been thinking of a space/time jutsu, that could really help 21 go all out.
Dimension of Sanctuary- Using his mastery of space/time jutsu, 21 alters space and time around him. Sending 21 and anyone close by into a different dimension, completely separate from real life. Only works on someone up to 5 feet away from 21.
This would let 21 actually summon the eleven tails, and let him go all out without worrying about killing any innocents. Not to mention, we'd be in a completely different dimension, meaning madara would have no idea what's going on inside. So we could finally use any jutsu without worrying about madara finding out.
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Post by bluebomb on Feb 8, 2011 3:36:11 GMT
Sounds like a good idea, but Madara can go interdimensions in canon.
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Post by flame on Feb 8, 2011 3:38:19 GMT
It's a completely different dimension, meaning no one in the real world can see it. Madara can't go there if he can't see it and doesn't know where it is.
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Post by flame on Feb 8, 2011 3:45:54 GMT
I'm going by the belief that there's an infinite number of dimensions. But that all depends on Mav's interpretation of different dimensions.
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 8, 2011 3:59:14 GMT
Sounds good, we'd actually be able to use Leo without having to worry with that. The only thing is that its limited range means that we'd be lucky to get even 2 enemies with it at the same time and that larger targets, such as Madara's artificial beasts, wouldn't be pulled in by it.
Anyway, I'll vote E.
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 8, 2011 4:06:42 GMT
I would have to say that I believe in an infinite number (or practically infinite) number of alternate dimensions. Especially if you believe that time isn't linear... Which I am a believer of.
I'll allow it, but I'd have to put some restrictions on it. The 5 foot rule is a good start, and the bigger beasts wouldn't be able to get pulled by it...
Furthermore, if Madara gets pulled into it, he can still phase, just not out of that dimension til the jutsu wears off.
The only thing I'd be concerned about is how would time work in the regular world whilst you're inside your pocket dimension.
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 8, 2011 4:14:08 GMT
Ideally: stopped Realistically: normal
Also, you plan to put a time limit on the jutsu? How long were you thinking? Also, what sort of cost would it have?
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Post by flame on Feb 8, 2011 4:21:10 GMT
You could put a time limit for a set amount of rounds the jutsu would last. If someone escapes and tells madara about it, it'd become useless. And time could be normal, it could be slower, it could be faster, or it could freeze. It's up to you.
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 8, 2011 4:26:48 GMT
I guess we could just have time go by normally.
Let's say the jutsu costs 300 chakra points, with the above listed restrictions. It's still ridiculously broken. As far as rounds are concerned, I'll leave it at 5 rounds, 30 seconds.
That seem fair to you guys?
You'd have to either take time to train it or use an arc reward. But it's a broken jutsu. Especially since you guys have FGG.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 8, 2011 4:34:29 GMT
Yeah, thats a wonderful idea. Mav, dont do it dirty like you did AoH.
...bastard
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Post by badjay on Feb 8, 2011 4:37:37 GMT
Sasuke loled at your AoH clown remember that.
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 8, 2011 4:39:03 GMT
I'll make it up to you by giving you this MAJOR hint, alright?
At THIS point in the story, about 60% of the main Akatsuki players have become what I'm calling jinchuriiki heki. You'll find out about that later, what it entails...
Anyway, it's a rather long process. Not all of them are going to get it, AoH is by NO MEANS useless. So please, don't lose hope like that.
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Post by HellsController on Feb 8, 2011 4:43:06 GMT
Time Machine: S Rank Cost: 5 chakra 21 makes a motherfucking time machine with the help of his friend Samuel L Jackson. Both motherfuckers use the motherfucking time machine to travel back in motherfucking time and kick Madara's motherfucking ass before all this shit started.
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 8, 2011 4:44:11 GMT
OR!!!
You go back in time, and kill yourself.
No Uchiha massacre, no Madara. Nothing.
No ninjutsu, no ninja caste system with all of its flaws. Just regular people, with regular problems.
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Post by HellsController on Feb 8, 2011 4:46:24 GMT
But then Sam wouldn't be able to kick ass and say awesome one-liners.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 8, 2011 6:41:08 GMT
HC, you are my hero. Fund it!
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Post by iceisnice on Feb 8, 2011 14:49:35 GMT
What about a jutsu that can control time itself? All we'd have to do is golemize time.
Slo-Mo, S-Rank- 400 point chakra cost Using his mastery of space/time jutsu, 21 alters time around him (excluding himself) so that everything goes in slow motion at 1/4th it's normal speed . Works on anyone (even his own clones and golems) within a 50 yard radius of 21. Lasts 6 secs real-time, which would seem like 24 secs to people effected.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 8, 2011 15:39:56 GMT
Magic bijuu dispelling technique- 2 and a half chakra. Based on the hunch that Madara might maybe, possibly, perhaps have a weapon that could be devastating to 21 and is based on bijuu, you can now magically erase them from existance, for funsies. Give Madara a taste of his own medicine. He shouldnt have left that fucking bijuu dna under konoha, in bellhelm, in the sound, so on and so forth.
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