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Post by giga on May 24, 2011 19:29:42 GMT
E
He can tell some details to the council, but not all of them. We could run with the story that we're the last of a village Akatsuki ruined, and we spent years tracking him and Akatsuki. That way Hiruzen can reasonably use us as a source that Madara is trying to gather the bijuus to assault the world. To be extra paranoid, we could even "accidentally" leak that we're the child of an Uchiha who had relations with a woman during a mission. If there are any spys, Madara would pick up on that and recieve false information.
Just... leave out the time traveling/bloodline using/Rikkudo Sennin thing, Hiruzen.
Oh.. and ask about the Uchiha thing.
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Post by overtninja on May 24, 2011 19:30:26 GMT
E
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Post by dragonfantasy on May 24, 2011 20:24:27 GMT
C, if he mentions somone named Danzo or ROOT people, investigate. We can take out Danzo early too!
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Post by iceisnice on May 24, 2011 20:45:36 GMT
B
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Post by Yushinoki on May 25, 2011 0:34:56 GMT
Giga's E
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Post by iceisnice on May 25, 2011 0:44:55 GMT
Change to giga's E
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Post by Mizu on May 25, 2011 1:56:24 GMT
E He can tell some details to the council, but not all of them. We could run with the story that we're the last of a village Akatsuki ruined, and we spent years tracking him and Akatsuki. That way Hiruzen can reasonably use us as a source that Madara is trying to gather the bijuus to assault the world. To be extra paranoid, we could even "accidentally" leak that we're the child of an Uchiha who had relations with a woman during a mission. If there are any spys, Madara would pick up on that and recieve false information. Just... leave out the time traveling/bloodline using/Rikkudo Sennin thing, Hiruzen. Oh.. and ask about the Uchiha thing. Switch to this
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Post by vegeta on May 25, 2011 4:02:46 GMT
Giga's E
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Post by U Metal on May 26, 2011 16:31:09 GMT
"I don't think we should spread all the details. Maybe we should just keep it to a minimum for now... Say, you could tell them I'm from one of the villages Akatsuki, or more specifically, Madara ruined." you say. There's multiple reasons to keep as much secret as possible... for example, the fact that the story is pretty ridiculous, and other than showing someone the truth, it's probably really hard to swallow. Also, you being the Rikudou Sennin might attract some... unwanted attention.
"Might be better to say I'm an Uchiha by descent or something...? I don't want to seem distrustful of Konoha, but there might be a spy of Madara's around." you continue... Hiruzen calmly looks up at you and laughs. "I may be old, but I'm no fool. I already had something blanned out, but your plan works better. You told Madara your name was Uchiha Izuna, right? I will keep that in mind." he says. Well, that's a good thing...
"Also, what about the Uchiha thing...?" you mention afterwards. Itachi is one of your best friends at this point (possibly even your only friend)
"I take offense to that, Izanami."
You don't count. Being the same person and all.
"Well... Itachi has passed on some information about the plans the Uchiha were making. The clan is planning to grab the opwer in Konoha by military means. Not only would that drastically weaken Konoha and leave most of the country dead... it would probably incite a world war, with a country attacking us first. And then another one attacking whoever attacks us. Originally. The plan was for Itachi to do this with his newfound power. I didn't agree with this, but it was the only way. However, when we talked to him just now, he immediately rejected the task." Hiruzen explains. Wait... he was going to be ordered to wipe out his own family, his own clan?
"But, sadly, the only way to deal with them is annihilation. I've tried to negotiate with them to no avail. If even one member is left alive... It'll cause too much pain for them to bear... causing the cycle of hatred to continue. I wish there was a peaceful way to end this, but now, it seems like nothing else will work." the old man said. He was obviously... not really happy with the idea of slaughtering an entire clan. However, it could lead to an accelerated end of the world were it not to happen...
A: Try to change his mind. Maybe you can change the Uchiha's mind on the uprising...?
B: Ask how he is planning to stop them now.
C: Offer killing the Uchiha clan yourself, so that nobody else has to take the burden. Especially not Itachi.
D: You've heard everything you want to hear. Leave for (insert location)
E: Other
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Post by Mizu on May 26, 2011 16:35:22 GMT
A
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Post by dragonfantasy on May 26, 2011 19:10:39 GMT
Changing to Giga's E.
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Post by overtninja on May 26, 2011 19:33:18 GMT
E
Edit: changed to E
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Post by mrdrman on May 26, 2011 20:18:40 GMT
A.
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Post by giga on May 26, 2011 22:14:04 GMT
E: A, but remind him of our time traveling powers, and ask if there were certain mass events that led up to this.
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Post by vegeta on May 27, 2011 0:50:33 GMT
Giga's E
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Post by U Metal on May 29, 2011 0:31:19 GMT
Well, mainly because Itachi is a good friend, you really don't like the idea of everyone in his clan having to be killed just because there's some bloody psychopaths. There has to be a better way out, hasn't there? The Rikudou Sennin sighed in the back of your head as you brought up that naive thought of hope and freedom. However, you wouldn't break from the thought that there had to be some way to stop it all from going wrong, right?
"Well... when did the problems with them start? With my power to travel through time, I can probably undo that from ever happening..." you note and the old man silently shakes his head. Turning around away from you and letting out a deep sigh... "I don't know if stopping this completely is possible without wiping either the Uchiha or Senju out completely... They've been rivals since the very formation of the clans. Delaying it, however, should be possible..." he notes. That's less than you were hoping for, but delaying it at all is a good thing, right?
"What I think is the largest trigger... is the Kyuubi invasion 8 years ago. The Uchiha were blamed for this and discriminated against. Eventually, they were pushed to just a single block of the village. Because the Kyuubi could be controlled by the Sharingan alone, people believed it was an Uchiha that made the Kyuubi attack Konoha and take the life of the 4th Hokage. If you could stop the Kyuubi from killing him, or the Kyuubi from even appearing at all, you should be able to at least delay this burst of hatred from appearing." Hiruzen explained.
That sounded... like a good idea. How tough could that Kyuubi be?
A: Offer to do it.
B: Maybe there's a better way...
C: Decline the offer...
D: Decline the offer, until you have a surefire way of succeeding.
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Post by overtninja on May 29, 2011 0:58:42 GMT
Wow. This could change so much in the story. Voting D
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Post by dragonfantasy on May 29, 2011 1:03:01 GMT
D, all of these changes sound like they could change the future, like if we go back to when the clans first started and delay it, someone like Itachi or Sasuke would never have been born.
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Post by iceisnice on May 29, 2011 1:06:56 GMT
What if we go back in time, tell Sarutobi to teach someone else the death reaper seal (such as Jiraiya as he's great with seals) and then he could seal the Kyuubi instead?
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Post by Mizu on May 29, 2011 1:35:48 GMT
Minato invented Reaper Death seal, not Sarutobi.
And, A.
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Post by iceisnice on May 29, 2011 1:53:39 GMT
Minato invented the death reaper seal, but Sarutobi was able to use it later on against Orochimaru.
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Post by Mizu on May 29, 2011 2:09:24 GMT
Yes, because he read it on some scroll Minato left behind after he croaked<_<
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Post by iceisnice on May 29, 2011 2:26:30 GMT
Fair enough, I don't suppose you think we could convince Minato to teach someone the Death Reaper Seal?
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Post by dragonfantasy on May 29, 2011 3:00:33 GMT
Or we could go in his dead body and learn it!?!?!
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Post by U Metal on May 29, 2011 4:54:37 GMT
I'm going to throw the butterfly effect a lot (like I've already done a bit with Shisui and Itachi not going rogue, Tenten was also Jounin at the time of the Invasion of Pain, but I didn't get to show that off.), as well as it not being that easy to reject events from reality. To, say, prevent Itachi's death completely, you're going to need to do a lot of work for it.
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