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Post by flame on Feb 20, 2011 5:08:52 GMT
Alright, lets learn Mokuton and take control of Madara's tailed beast. Which will work.
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Post by Forte on Feb 20, 2011 5:12:02 GMT
Well, if he sees it, we're probably screwed. So it's probably gotta be one shot, one hit.
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Post by flame on Feb 20, 2011 5:14:55 GMT
This is what will happen "I already knew you could learn Mokuten. So I've given all my tailed beast anti tree cream."
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Post by taziatusga on Feb 20, 2011 5:24:52 GMT
Well as long as we hit hard and fast is should work.
We should start workin on our blitz plan.
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Post by hueyfreeman on Feb 20, 2011 14:51:56 GMT
....I completely forgot about Yamato. He would have been the best ally to have to fight those tailed beasts.
Mav, would it be within reason to have someone look up Kinkaku and Ginkaku's weapons to find them?
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Post by overtninja on Feb 20, 2011 17:42:42 GMT
I'm pretty sure that controlling the tailed beasts was Hashirama's own power not just anybody that could control trees. Who said we could learn that kekkei genkai anyways?
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 20, 2011 17:48:00 GMT
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Tsunade's necklace that let Yamato restrain Naruto. Not sure if it's only required for jinchuriki or not, but it may have been one of Hashirama's abilities, separate from Mokuton.
Also, Mav said that we could learn ANY element based bloodline ability.
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Post by hueyfreeman on Feb 20, 2011 18:02:39 GMT
Also votes to have our team (with Yamato's help) study Tsunade's necklace and look for a way to amplify or even replicate it's properties. While they do this, 21 goes back into gaining the next realm.
Mav, if you need specific people to investigate. - Yamato (It works with him. Obvious choice) - Tsunade (her necklace and she may have some knowledge about it) - Sarutobi (He HAS to have knowledge of the first hokage's abilities and bijuu) - Killer Bee & Naruto (it works with jinchuriki and Bee has great control so it's a good test) - Aki (Smart so he can organize this. Also, he can read minds so he may need to use this to guage progress inside Naruto and Bee's minds)
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 21, 2011 1:54:35 GMT
Just an FYI. This will work on the tailed beasts themselves, but not the fake ones.
Furthermore, this will be considered a training arc for your team mates. And while Yamato is a little stronger than canon Yamato, he possesses a slightly different move set.
I'm just saying because since it's a training arc, I have to adjust accordingly. (e.g. while Sasuke and Itachi would normally practice on Susanoo, their time would be used for this. Assuming you CHOOSE them, but that's just an example)
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 21, 2011 2:30:11 GMT
Also votes to have our team (with Yamato's help) study Tsunade's necklace and look for a way to amplify or even replicate it's properties. While they do this, 21 goes back into gaining the next realm. Mav, if you need specific people to investigate. - Yamato (It works with him. Obvious choice) - Tsunade (her necklace and she may have some knowledge about it) - Sarutobi (He HAS to have knowledge of the first hokage's abilities and bijuu) - Killer Bee & Naruto (it works with jinchuriki and Bee has great control so it's a good test) - Aki (Smart so he can organize this. Also, he can read minds so he may need to use this to guage progress inside Naruto and Bee's minds) Read more: narutocyoa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mav&action=display&thread=1&page=16#ixzz1EYZhiKyx
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Post by taziatusga on Feb 21, 2011 5:07:57 GMT
Mav is there anyway to cancel the fake tailed beast ?
Would it be possible to combine our golem style with mokuton, I thought it be possible since mokuton needs the spark of life golem style can provide.
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Post by overtninja on Feb 21, 2011 5:28:17 GMT
Mav is there anyway to cancel the fake tailed beast ? Would it be possible to combine our golem style with mokuton, I thought it be possible since mokuton needs the spark of life golem style can provide. Dude i don't think it is the Mokuton itself that supresses tailed beasts, it is most likely Hashirama's own unique ability
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Post by taziatusga on Feb 21, 2011 5:34:49 GMT
we can't tell either way since the only two to do it had mokuton, hash blood and necklace
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Post by overtninja on Feb 22, 2011 14:54:08 GMT
Also votes to have our team (with Yamato's help) study Tsunade's necklace and look for a way to amplify or even replicate it's properties. While they do this, 21 goes back into gaining the next realm.
Mav, if you need specific people to investigate. - Yamato (It works with him. Obvious choice) - Tsunade (her necklace and she may have some knowledge about it) - Sarutobi (He HAS to have knowledge of the first hokage's abilities and bijuu) - Killer Bee & Naruto (it works with jinchuriki and Bee has great control so it's a good test) - Aki (Smart so he can organize this. Also, he can read minds so he may need to use this to guage progress inside Naruto and Bee's minds)
Voting for this.
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 23, 2011 9:16:03 GMT
At work, and it's a cluster fuck. Will update when I get home, assuming it's not too late.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 23, 2011 9:21:49 GMT
Mav still updates? When did this happen?
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 24, 2011 0:01:30 GMT
Having informed Team 21 of all your knowledge and exploits within the realms, you were later made privy to some very important information. The man you saved from Danzo all those years ago, was essentially an experiment trying to replicate Hashirama-sama's abilities. His name is Yamato, and he has continued to loyally serve the Leaf. Kakashi speaks with you in regards to controlling the tailed beasts, and that perhaps Yamato is a good start, considering Hashirama-sama was fabled to control them with ease.
Tsunade is the First's granddaughter. And along with his ninjutsu capabilities, she also inherited a powerful necklace. This necklace, through unknown means, can negate a tailed beast. It's not enough to know what works. It is most important to know WHY and HOW something works, so that it can be replicated. That is true victory.
You hand down your instructions to Kakashi and Itachi. You explain in depth how you wish for this experiment to go down. Most importantly, you explain who you have chosen to help, and what roles they must fill. After this task is accomplished, you retire to your quarters. You still have a lot more time than you had anticipated, and that's a good thing. But you are getting rather fatigued mentally. You decide that after this realm is concluded, you should seriously at least take a nap, after a small meal.
You sit down on your floor mat, and cross your legs in silent meditation. You feel Rikkudo's presence as he returns to you.
"You look tired," Rikkudo states. "I have been watching you, when I can. Our increasing bond allows me the opportunity, every now and again. Your regeneration is indeed remarkable, beyond anything I have ever known. A weakness in the mind, in the soul, these things, can never be regenerated. If you do not nurse your mind and soul, your body will suffer for it".
"I have already made preparations for that," you answer.
"Yes... I imagine you have," he replies. "You have a bad habit of making plans. It's fantastic to think 10 steps ahead. But what happens when something doesn't work out the way you wish it? Then, will you stare curiously as the situation rampages out of control?"
"Please, I am very tired," you explain. "I know I must rest, and eat. I will do these things. But I just really need to get this done already. As soon as I'm out of Hell Realm, I'll take a small break. But we don't have time for this".
"Very well," Rikkudo says, choosing to turn away from the subject. "There is a warning here however. Hell Realm focuses on your deep rooted hatreds. Anyone, or anything, that might have crossed you in this life, or a former life, will come to the surface. Here, you will face many things. You might face these in the literal, as such, Madara will most likely be there. But you might also face these in the abstract. For example, your crusade for good might be threatened by the idea of evil. In Hell Realm, you will face the very idea of evil".
"How do you defeat an idea?" you ask curiously.
"You must become greater than an idea," he explains. "You must rise above such things, while maintaining the lessons of the previous realms. In this realm, you will be facing ancient creatures, similar to the Preta. However, these creatures mostly comes in two varieties: The torturers, and the tortured. The torturers are here to incite suffering, as their name suggests. The tortured consist of the poor souls who almost reached complete enlightenment, yet could not let go of their anger, their hatred or animosity. They might also get in your way, although not by choice. They might be forced to impede you, by the creatures that bind them. They might even be hoping to be made free of this realm. This realm is a dark, depressing place. A beacon of light will shine brightest here, and you can bet that they wish for you to fail. Also, in this realm, combat is commonplace, and you WILL fight if you wish to succeed. That doesn't mean that everything is a fight. For that matter, it doesn't mean that every fight can be won. But the moment you give in to despair and quit, is the moment Hell Realm will swallow you whole, and you will join the ranks of the tortured".
"Sounds like a real hopping place," you answer sarcastically. "So... maintain the values I have learned from the previous realms, yet strive to exceed my negative emotions. And if a fight has to happen, I can fight, I just might not be able to win".
"In a nutshell, if you wish to place it in its most basic terms," Rikkudo replies.
"I'm ready," you answer with a deep exhale.
"For the sake of our soul, and the world that needs to be saved again, I sincerely hope so".
Rikkudo's words carry a sense of foreboding. When you open your eyes, you see a mountainous area. The dirt is a strange, dull orange, and the sun is a deep crimson. Everything is tainted red by this bloody orb's light. In the distance you hear the cries of agony that seem common in this realm. There is very little light indeed...
Even that sun seems to make the setting darker. This is the most disturbing thing you have ever seen, and you can't really explain why. Immediately, you're reminded of Danzo's slaughterhouse, the atrocities you witnessed there... But for some reason, this sends more of a chill down your spine than even that sinister lab did.
Behind you, you hear what seems to be a group forming up. Their voices are gravely, and unnatural. Your eyes, even though extremely sharp, cannot see in this dismal environment. You hear them gathering, but you don't know what's there, and their words, are too hard to pick up. They might be far away. They might be close... This place makes any estimate on your behalf a haphazard one at best.
You rationalize that this realm seems different than all the others already. This is a blatantly violent place, and it makes no effort to hide this fact. Furthermore, whereas the other realms tried to engage you immediately, this realm has no welcomed you at all. It's almost as if you have to find your own way. This realm will likely be the hardest one you've encountered by far.
You look around and measure your options. You could travel to the direction you believe the cries of pain are coming from. The thought of investigating the group behind you also comes to mind. You don't want to get ambushed later on at their discretion, should they be so inclined... There's also a long pathway that goes through a very large field. The field itself has gargantuan flowers, all of which, have yet to bloom.
In the distance, a tall mountain extends up and above the clouds. At the base, there lies a trail as well, going the opposite direction of the flowery field.
It would seem that all four options you've picked out to this point go in a certain direction, like a cross, almost perfect in geometrical proportions...
You could also take a more cautionary approach, and remain here while you wait. The goal here is to overcome hatred you determine, perhaps showing indifference is a good start? A tricky place indeed, all options have merit, but they could all be wrong as well. ============== A: Take the mountain path B: Investigate the muttering behind you C: Take the flowery field D: Head towards the cries of pain E: Do nothing, wait here F: Free Will
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 24, 2011 0:01:50 GMT
FYI, everything in this realm is a clutch moment and a turning point.
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Post by giga on Feb 24, 2011 0:19:25 GMT
"So... maintain the values I have learned from the previous realms, yet strive to exceed my negative emotions."
Voting to depend on one member of our team, hold fast to delusions of control, exaggerate one aspect of our personality, and rip off our clothes in a mad fit of negative emotions.
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Post by Yushinoki on Feb 24, 2011 0:22:06 GMT
Mav, is this vote just a path determination, or is there a right and wrong option?
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Post by giga on Feb 24, 2011 0:28:02 GMT
They might even be hoping to be made free of this realm... A beacon of light will shine brightest here
Can we overcome our hatred by helping others overcome their own hatred? Can our goal be to act as a beacon of light to guide others?
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Post by maverickraven on Feb 24, 2011 0:44:46 GMT
This is Hell. The ONLY difference between this and the traditional Christian view of hell, is that in this belief system, people can atone for their sins through punishment.
When their bad karma is exhausted through suffering, they get reborn into a different realm.
Yushi, to answer your question. This option is merely a turning point, there isn't a wrong or right option. There are options that will make things easier down the way however.
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Post by someclown911 on Feb 24, 2011 0:53:10 GMT
I feel like we should pick the hardest sounding one. Flowery field is probably the hardest one.
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Post by giga on Feb 24, 2011 1:21:53 GMT
Is hating hatred itself count as hatred? Indifference might be that.
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Post by hueyfreeman on Feb 24, 2011 17:33:43 GMT
I say B.
I don't want to get ambushed by the group (making it harder on us later). At the same time, waiting is bad and gets nothing done.
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